Posts by Faithful Witness

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July WT Study magazine - How can any intelligent person believe these things??

by Faithful Witness in

i haven't been paying attention, i admit... but thought i would go and look at their latest magazine, and see what my parents are spending their precious energy on this month.

my mom retired in may, and we have seen her just once since then.

our invitations have been rejected, due to meetings, conventions, service work requirements, etc.

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I haven't been paying attention, I admit... but thought I would go and look at their latest magazine, and see what my parents are spending their precious energy on this month. My mom retired in May, and we have seen her just once since then. Our invitations have been rejected, due to meetings, conventions, service work requirements, etc. Ugh.

I have not read the whole magazine, but it seems that they are really puffing themselves up with pride. Jehovah's People "Renounce Unrighteousness." Hmmmm... sounds like a good idea. (I assume that I am the unrighteous now, since I never agreed to become a JW and "bear God's name").

Don't debate with apostates. Paragraph 20 on page 16: "The privilege of bearing God's name comes with responsibility."

"Jehovah will always love 'those who belong to him' and adhere to his righteous ways." (Like avoiding your grandchildren)

And on page 31, paragraph 11: "Ever since that marked year of 1914, 'the signs of [Christ's] presence' as earth's new King has become clear for all to see." -- (Oh? Can you give some examples of these signs?)

Paragraph 15 on page 32: "Thus, being hated for bearing Jehovah's name is the same as 'being reproached for the name of [Jesus] Christ,' who said to his opposers: 'I have come in the name of my Father, but you do not receive me.' (John 5:43)" -- (Jesus came in the name of his Father, but there is no record of Jesus telling them to use the name Jehovah or any other pronunciation. This would have been yet another place for specific instructions on the use of the name they are so proud to bear).

I'm just so glad we woke up before joining this cult.

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Outrageous Comment

by Yondaime in

what was the most outrageous comment you ever heard during a wt study?.

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please share your experiences..

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As an outside observer, visiting a KH for the first time in 3+ years, we went to watch the reaction and comments to the "new light" article being discussed from the July 15, 2013 WT (1914, 1919, etc.)

There were many disturbing comments made, but most memorable to my ears, was the way the conductor kept repeating and injecting these reminders to the congregation: "We must all stick together on this one." "We are united." This was after his introduction, which included something like, "This is a little confusing, but we know we don't have to understand it."

This article was "discussed" after a talk given about Armageddon (or something to do with angels fighting). The speaker figured out this number during his speech (apparently), and kept shouting about how there are "TEN THOUSAND MILLION angels!!! Imagine that! Ten thousand million angels!"

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Even my 6-year old son can recognize TRASH when he sees it. He threw a NWT into the public garbage can! Yay!

by Faithful Witness in

we were out walking in a small michigan community this weekend.

we came across a "free lending library" on the street corner.

the sign said, "take a book, leave a book, or do both!

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joyfulfader: You are right. We should not have made a public display of that. I did have a pang of guilt, tossing any book into the trash. The street was empty at the time, but there is a chance that someone did see us perform that blasphemous act. I will bring this up with my kids today, and we do plan to bring a couple of books to that "library," the next time we visit.

Rattigan: I disagree. The NWT is a perversion of the Bible. (But yes, it just keeps getting worse).

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My evening at the pub - how many ex-JW's do you think there are?

by berrygerry in

so i'm having a pint and talking to the owner and his gf.. she's talking about her line of work - leads to my family history - and that my wife is in a strange religion.. the owner snorts, and says very disdainfully that his ex was a jehovah's witness.

i said bingo.. then the barmaid pipes in about her grandma and all of her aunts and uncles were witnesses, and were all out.

but the grandma has witness siblings, so went back after 20 years.

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Robert said: there are too many who have not overcome the WTBTS's mind manipulation and still feel that the WTBTS does have the "Truth" and/or are still adversely affected by the WTBTS's mind manipulation.

EXACTLY! This is the claim that my elderette made, when I was asking her why Ex-JW's were wrong for leaving. "ALL of the people that I know, who have either left The Truth, or been disfellowshipped... ALL of them say the same thing! They KNOW the JW's have the TRUTH. They just don't want to obey."

I'm sure she has put me into this category also: disobedient and unwilling to submit to Jehovah's Organization. My first question to her, being that they had no evidence that the FDS had been appointed to rule over the lives of millions of JW's worldwide.

I'm sure there are millions of disobedient ones in the world today. That is one of the main reasons they have to ramp up their warnings about associating with non-believers. Don't be drawn away from "Jehovah!"

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My Elderette returns for a final Bible Study session, after I avoided her for 2 months (very long post)

by Faithful Witness in

some of this will be repeat, since it's been a little while since i posted about my "bible study" sessions with miss k, my elderette.

we are talking about the name of jehovah.

thanks for talking with us today.

Faithful Witness

I keep hoping that she will return for one more, last-ditch effort. I knew that inviting Diana to participate would probably scare her away for good.

Although I should have been, I was NOT trying to "destroy the Watchtower" or "bring her to the LORD." I was rather enjoying our critical discussions, and learning a lot about JW behavior by watching her. It was just taking too much away from my family, and I could see myself tiptoeing around the gravity of the situation too many times. I would either spend too much time thinking and preparing for her visit, or I would be unprepared and more vulnerable to her manipulation.

She was getting to me. I knew it. She knew it. ... Not converting me, but still starting to control my behavior, through her "training" techniques.

Whether I was getting to her, I will probably never know.

I guess I will have to wait until the next major campaign, to see if we still get our usual "hit and run" visitors. The last magazine left in my doorjam, was about 6 weeks ago. We live in the territory of a different KH, and I always answer and act interested when they call. They never are able to answer my sincere questions.

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Even my 6-year old son can recognize TRASH when he sees it. He threw a NWT into the public garbage can! Yay!

by Faithful Witness in

we were out walking in a small michigan community this weekend.

we came across a "free lending library" on the street corner.

the sign said, "take a book, leave a book, or do both!

Faithful Witness

We were out walking in a small Michigan community this weekend. We came across a "Free Lending Library" on the street corner.

The sign said, "Take a book, leave a book, or do BOTH!"

We looked through the selection of books, and found a few treasures... and some trash.

When we discovered that there was a (well-read) copy of the NWT up for grabs, my son grabbed it. He promptly disposed of it in the next available trash can.

Hurray for critical thinking! My son is a genius.

Some lost soul could have picked that thing up, and thought it was a real bible!

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My Elderette returns for a final Bible Study session, after I avoided her for 2 months (very long post)

by Faithful Witness in

some of this will be repeat, since it's been a little while since i posted about my "bible study" sessions with miss k, my elderette.

we are talking about the name of jehovah.

thanks for talking with us today.

Faithful Witness

carla: EXACTLY!! Jesus is merely a TOOL to get to God. He is the door you have to go through, and they do it grudgingly.

"Yes, Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one gets to Jehovah, except if they GO THROUGH him. Remember now: WHO gave him his power???"

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My Elderette returns for a final Bible Study session, after I avoided her for 2 months (very long post)

by Faithful Witness in

some of this will be repeat, since it's been a little while since i posted about my "bible study" sessions with miss k, my elderette.

we are talking about the name of jehovah.

thanks for talking with us today.

Faithful Witness

Deceived: Thanks for sharing your story!

The tactic the JW's use to "lead you to the Truth," is by first making you question your previous beliefs about the Bible.

They have to turn you against all religion, and then show you what the Bible "REALLY" Teaches... by showing you a verse here, another verse there...

BUT when you read their verse in context, you realize the gross misinterpretations they are making. They jump to conclusions, and use key words like "obviously," "clearly," "evidently..."

When you put their books down and actually read the Bible without their commentary, you realize how deceived they are.

I hope I can relay this whole experience to my parents, in a way that will make them both start to THINK for a change! They are already baptized, so it is a lot harder to peck holes in the wall that surrounds them.

This looks like an easy way to put in your time! Yahoo News photo

by Faithful Witness in

members of the jehovah's witnesses faith, earl moore, left, and thomas lewis, sit on a bench at reyburn park waiting to talk to people about the bible in philadelphia on wednesday, july 16, 2014.

(ap photo/matt rourke).

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/members-jehovahs-witnesses-faith-earl-moore-left-thomas-photo-210133740.html;_ylt=awrbjscoi.dtoc0axkzrtdmd;_ylu=x3odmtb1zzdtotbmbhbvcwmxbhnlywnpbwfnzqrjb2xva2jmmqr2dglkaw--.

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Members of the Jehovah's Witnesses faith, Earl Moore, left, and Thomas Lewis, sit on a bench at Reyburn Park waiting to talk to people about the Bible in Philadelphia on Wednesday, July 16, 2014. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

Jehovah's Witnesses waiting to talk to people about the Bible

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/members-jehovahs-witnesses-faith-earl-moore-left-thomas-photo-210133740.html;_ylt=AwrBJSCoi.dTOC0AXKzRtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTB1ZzdtOTBmBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNpbWFnZQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--

This is news?

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Detroit International Convention, June 6-8 - IS the public invited?

by Faithful Witness in

my mom was worrying out loud, about inviting the "public" to this event.

she told me they were announcing that people were not booking their hotels fast enough, and "we don't want to make the jw's look bad!

she told me about a promotional video they all watched, full of propaganda about the ford field house and all the arrangements that had been made for transportation and parking, and the city of detroit.

Faithful Witness

Which day were they blessed with the appearance of Gerrit Losch?

I was relieved to hear that my parents left Detroit Friday night. The shuttle bus arrangements were an absolute fiasco, during rush hour in Detroit. My mom was on a new medication, where she was not supposed to be out in the sun. Little did she know, that was going to be standing in a line 2 blocks long, waiting for so long in the HOT sun! She started hallucinating and said "people had purple spots all over their faces..."

They "rushed" her to the front of the line, but it still took them about 2 hours to get back to the hotel. Of course, my brother in law and sister had already been back long enough to go and have dinner before they got back. Apparently, he has some privileges that my dad does not have.

Anyway, my dad got pissed, packed his suitcase and left. "I've had enough of this bull&*it. We are not staying one more day!" They even took home the elderly man who rode along with them to the convention.

Of course, my mom is relaying this story to me, so embarassed and humiliated that she made a spectacle of herself. She wished she could have stayed for the whole convention. Ugh.

Just wondering which day the blessed appearance was... I know my sister and her family saw it, and clearly took the speeches to heart. They did NOT come to the family reunion.